Thursday, June 9, 2011

Poll: Faces of Pain

We have a new poll out!  This time we want to know how important it is to see a man’s face while taking the lash on his back.  How important is this to you?  Do you just want to watch the whip bounce off his skin, or do you want to see his reactions to the touch of the cat?  Do you want to watch the fear on his face as he anticipates the next stroke, or would you just rather watch his muscular back flex and stiffen as we waits for more pain?

You can only choose one in the poll, but tell us the details behind your vote in the comments!

Would you rather watch this:

Or just this:


Pix from Starship Troopers

20 comments:

  1. I think a good mix of both is ideal for my perfect scene. Which is one of the reasons the Starship whipping is one of the best there is, in my opinion. It's great to watch the lashes being applied from a back view, but it heightens the scene to show the reaction from the prisoner, and as you said, to watch him brace himself and anticipate the next painful stroke.

    On a side note, also saw a scene once where the prisoner actually glanced back over his shoulder and briefly made eye contact with the whipper. The look on his face basically said 'please stop', but the whipping continued obviously. All the agony, helplessness and humiliation were bottled up in that one look. It was a simple gesture that had a profound effect.

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  2. I not only want to see the face of the floggee, I want to have other see my expressions as I try to gut it out. The guy whipping me can't see my face, but I've taken lashes with other guys seeing front and side and hearing my grunts too. Has helped me endure it, the Spartan side of it is awesome and I love taking a guy take his punishment. Rico's face there just sums up the manhood of it as well as the stripes across the sinewy back.

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  3. Above post, I meant watching a guy take his punishment.

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  4. For me, at least, seeing the facial reactions is much more exciting than seeing the effect on the man's back. Probably the best clip I've seen is from Kiss the Blood off my Hands (this is currently posted on youtube, in segment 4/8). You see Lancaster's reaction, shrinking back when he first sees the flogging apparatus... then his nervous expression while they're strapping him down and he imagines what's going to happen to him (especially in Britain in 1948, when the torture of a judicial flogging was well-publicised). Then the absolute agony in his face as the flogging proceeds. We never see the whip come down on his back, but we don't need to!

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  5. I dunno, it's like a toss-up on this one. Part of it has to do with how the dude is strung up for the whipping.

    If his arms are spread-eagled or over his head, then like Mike said, a side view is really cool. You not only get to see how well the whipper lays it on, but how the dudes back absorbs the pain along with the grimace on his face. And as far as the anticipation of the lash goes, an expert will not give that away, so flexing and tensing will do the guy getting it no good.

    If a dude is tied to a tree or a post, then his head is most likely off to the side, so the reaction when the whip hits the body is subdued, so I'd rather see the agony on his face.

    And it all comes down to what type of whip is used. In S/T, that's the best part for me. Only wish it had lasted longer.

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  6. You can also see the face of suffering Paolo (the groom hit in the miniseries The cap Borgia 8th) and only 2 jacks on the back marks. In the first 2 tabs are only in the second 7 or 8 tabs. And the punishment continued.
    It's the best I saw so far.

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  7. I admire a man who takes it jaw set and stoically and I love it when you can see it really hurts like hell but a man's own pride and honor code clearly makes crying out in pain is not an option if it can be helped. Then whip him some more! If he is going to snivel, beg, whimper and cry I would rather not be there to see it all.

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  8. The scene Luis referred to can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdB0PmO95so

    Decided after watching it (multiple times, of course) that it's one of my new favorites! There's a really nice mix of back shots, plus extensive facial reaction, not to mention the fact that he's telling off his master to boot.

    On a side note, strange how a lot of the newer films and TV series are coming out with whipping scenes again. It's almost as if the producers are really getting into it...

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  9. Yeah! That is a great clip. Thanks for sharing the link. The variations in the actor's reactions from stroke to stroke were very realistic (some lashes are less painful than others). I especially liked the sweat dripping off his face--a very real occurrence known to anyone who has taken a flogging.

    It had everything a good flogging needs--a good looking young prisoner with a sexy accent, sweat, blood, pain, endurance. A real piece of art.

    The trash-talking isn't something that I usually like in flogging (I prefer floggings be punishments rather than interrogations), but this one did it very well. You can tell when the prisoner is resolved to finally just take all his tormentor can give and just tells it like it is: "... she can't stand the smell of you, nor the thought of you, nor m'lord, can I." GREAT STUFF!

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  10. I think there is no doubt that seeing the reaction on a man's face as he prepares to take the lash as well as his reaction to each individual stroke is very important to me. For in his reaction I imagine my own. That visual, along with the sound of the whip on flesh, evokes the very heart of the almost mystical attraction to the ritual of being whipped.

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  11. I like to see the whip strike the back, but my ideal flogging scene has another element. A slender shirtless guy tied up and his facial expression showing that he is in agony. As part of that, we see his chest heaving and perspiring, with his nipples and navel clearly visible.

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  12. The focus should always be on the area that's being flogged. That said it's a good thing to see the face of the floggee the moment the bullwhip or the cat hits his body, at least once or twice during a two-dozen-hit experience. The facial expression of absorbing the pain and expecting the next hit is usually a telling indicator whether the floggee is a man ... or not.
    Lukas

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  13. My best mate & I often whip each other. But on the occasions we have both been whipped by another buddy, I love to watch Phil's expression as he tries to deal with the pain. And having him watching me helps me endure for longer.

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  14. I like it best when I am tied face to face with another guy and we are both flogged. Not only do we see each other we FEEL it as well. Try it!

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    1. My brother Owen and I tried it, oh yaeh! Facing each other, our upper bodies about 30 inches apart, we absolutely enjoyed watching our chests and belly buttons, lol, with two bullwhips hitting our bare backs pretty much simultanously. Seeing my brother sweat, breathing harder with every lash and his facial expression turn from pain to agony was an added bonus for me being under the whip - and vice versa: Owen told me later that staring at my hairless, well-toned, tanned naked upper body was an inspiration for him to stoically endure the experience. Important point: I'd say it's crucial that the two floggers have an understanding that their lashes must be somewhat coordinated and laid on simultaneously for the two floggees to get the most out of the experience: to see Owen's body the moment it got hit, and his immediate reaction on one hand, and feeling the sting of the bullwhip on my back at the exact same time on the other hand was overwhelming! We did it maybe four more times after that, and I hope we'll do it again in the near future - plus: with your own brother it's just special.

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    2. Lukas, your discription of a mutual simultanious flogging is so similar to my experience. My best mate & I were facing each other and admiring our bodies in mutual pain. Looking into his eyes & visa versa encouraged us both to take more than almost ever before.

      One diference though-- the flogging was alternate strokes not simultanious. That way we get to watch each stroke of the other's pain without being distracted by our own. Maybe U'd like to try it? I think your method is good though, we may try it next time.

      I respect your relationship with your bro & dad. Unfortunatly I never had a bro. Got 3/4 good mates I play about with, but I guess that's not quite the same.

      Take care PL

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  15. how about whipping his chest and stomach? that way you can see both the impact of the whip and the facial expression.

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  16. I would love to see a man get flogged on the chest!

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  17. You are to be commended for taking the initiative and being such a good host and taking your own lashes for your viewers. Maybe the answer to this poll is to have your next whipping be split screen, one side looking at your back and the other looking at your torso and face so that we see the whipping AND the reaction. Just a thought but it should satisfy everyone.

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  18. What I would like to have more of is more vocal reaction of the floggee.

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