Thursday, March 17, 2011

Flogging Competition

Sorry it has been so long since my last post.  I have been working on some deadline-driven projects and just haven’t had the time to sit down and write about my favorite sport:  flogging.  I am glad to see that the comments continue to stream in and that there are people all over the world as passionate about the lash as I am.
                            
Over the past few weeks, when I have been able to think about it, my mind has been turning to the idea that flogging is an extreme sport, not (always) a bedroom activity:  It is a competition with oneself and there is a bit of pride to be had in being able to show the world how much you can take. 

But could we actually make it into an objective competition between men?  Competitive Flogging!  In order to be objective, we would need a system scoring, as if it were some sort of spectator event like wrestling or gymnastics.  Would it be a team sport, with a Prisoner and Inflictor competing against other teams or would it be a competition between the Prisoner and Inflictor?  In either case, we would have to work out a scoring system to ensure that it is at least somewhat objective (of course there should be room for the subjective like style and fitness—a “did-he-look-good-doing-it?” kind of thing).

What are your thoughts?  How could we turn this into a competition?  What would be the categories for scoring?  Would there be a category for welt-development? How about number of lashes before crying out?  Would we measure the speed of the whip as it was laid on?

Judging by the picture, how would you say this guy took it?


59 comments:

  1. Number of lashes before crying out would probably be the easiest category to get an objective measurement on. To guarantee that the whipper wasn't overtired, alternate lashes would be delivered to volunteer "victims" strapped down side by side, with the one who screamed first losing. A panel of judges might be needed to decide what constituted crying out: gasping in pain? Groaning? Or would anything short of a full-throated yell not count?

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  2. Interesting idea. I'd go with a simple first-to-fall approach - the winner is the one who takes the most lashes before tapping out. The competitors have to keep their hands on a bar to stay in - taking your hands off the bar means you're out. It's probably impossible to guarantee consistent force/pain in the lashes, but the best bet might be to have the same whipper alternate laying the lashes on the two competitors side by side. (Or better yet facing each other so they can see how well the other one is taking it, taunt each other, psych each other out, etc. That would make it a little more interesting in terms of the psychological strategy.)

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  3. Or simply the first guy to say "STOP!"

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  4. Thanks Whippingdudes and men who respond to the blogs. I'm a middle age man whose interest in shirtless, bare back whipping and flogging has evolved into a burning desire and longing. I found the site last Saturday, 3-12-11. Most all of the comments I've read could have been written by me--fascination since childhood, extreme caution watching a man being flogged in a movie that I viewed with my parents in the room, some experimentation with weeping willon branches, and throughout later teen and adult years whipping myself, shirtless, with a belt(s) or improvised cat. The discovery through this Whippingdudes blogsite that I am not alone has given me inspiration and courage and pushed me to take action. I have a time frame for taking my first flogging/whipping. Because of where I live it may take me a while to find another man or men to show me if I have what it takes. I know my first flogging will not be my last.

    Here is a suggestion for the competition among those who will carry out the punishments. There will be those at the competition who are new to the sport of flogging and maybe have developed enough endruance to compete on the receiving end of the whips. If those men can take, say 30 lashes, they will be the prisoners and will flogged so the judges can rate the men who apply the whip--from stripping (either ordering or the actual stripping of the shirt), to securing the prisoner (to the whipping post, or spread eagle), to the application of the lash. Only five lashes would be applied by the contestant. The process is repeated, same prisoner but new whipman, until the prisoner has reached 30 lashes his limit.

    Again, thanks everyone. Very, very sorry to discover that Youtube removed Whippingdudes Prison Punishment--24 lashes with the quirt. That video was a major factor in motivating me to find a way to take the whip.

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  5. Anonymous again, just posted (March 18, 2011 5:55pm comment). Sorry about the 'anonymous', new to blogging, didn't mean to do that. Blog is from Lucas. I'll figure out this blogging soon.

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  6. Anonymous again, just posted above comment (March 18, 2011 5:55 PM. Sorry about the anonymous, did not mean to have to use anonymous. New to blogging. I am Lucas. Hopefully I get into blogging correctly.

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  7. Does anyone know the story of the barefoot guy in bluejeans with the great welts and cut all over his bare back? I have seen another pic a long time ago with the person who whipped him but no explanation was given. Sure would love to know why and how it happened. He has great whip marks and I'll bet "he took it like a man!!" Thanks. Paul

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    1. Beautiful cuts on his naked back.....

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  8. Rawback, I wish I knew. Those are great welts and I would love to see the video of this, if it exists. You can tell that, no matter how he reacted to his punishment, it was a hard and unforgiving one--it took a real man to step up for that one; he probably felt those welts painfully for over a week!--just think of THAT!!

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  9. He is being whipped by a dominatrix in the full pic. Don't know if there is a video.

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  10. traducción del español al inglés
    For me would be the participant's arms tied, shirtless and sentenced to a punishment of 25 lashes. There should be a jury to audit. It can be divided into categories of whips.
    In a second pass all those who passed the first of 25. And so on.
    If there's any sufuciente hard to get to 100, obviously that would be the winner!

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  11. In the picture story of the boy hit would be nice to see the whole picture and if possible a link.
    Apparently the punishment was too hard! These hives are not going fast. One must see that the position which is not very comfortable. Really is being punished, as it is serving a sentence.
    It would be good to know how many lashes were and as the boy tolerated

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  12. The Spartan method was. The lads who wished to be tested in the Diamastigosis would stand & take their whipping in silence (For to cry out meant disqualification). The last lad standing got to spend the night with the virgin of his choice.

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  13. Man, I dunno about this. Guys are competitive period, and that would include the dude holding the whip in his hand. Put two dudes side by side in a whipping contest, and it could get ugly real quick like, especially if the object is to break the guy tied to the whipping post down.

    But if ya wanna play this game, then why not determine the outcome with the type of whip used instead? Like a specific number of lashes given with each whip, a flogger, single tail, and maybe a quirt or belt all applied to the back with meaning.

    Some guys have a higher pain tolerance then others, and can take the whip across their back all freakin' day. Put the onus (did ya like that word?) on the dude laying on the whip.

    Determine the so called winner by the look of the welts on his back. My guess is the single tail would do anyone in.

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  14. For guys that fancy themselves as real masters with a whip, and can draw blood with every stroke; and guys that think they can take being cut. You could have an extreme competition. Same rodeo type of scoring system, but limited to 5 strokes.
    Going back to the endurance competition. You could run it more as a timed event like rodeo. Say, 2 minute rounds. Allow the guy being whipped to stop at anytime in the 2 minutes. Score the guy being whipped base on how long he lasted, how well he took the lashes, and how many he took. Score the guy doing the whipping on control, style, tempo, and number of lashes laid on. Each man will be scored 1-50, highest combimed score wins.

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  15. Spencer, dude - Awesome suggestion...

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  16. Sounds like a great method, James. Of course, I think that the "control" aspect would be better served by scoring the Inflictor on how he achieved severity without drawing blood. Maybe some sort of speed-measuring device could be used to show how fast the whip was travelling.

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  17. Richie, Thought you would like that.
    The Rodeo scoring system lends itself really well for a whipping competition.
    The men would be paired up through luck of the draw. I would suggest a 1 minute round, and 3 go rounds. I know I can throw 25 or more lashes in 1 minute. This would mean that the guys advancing to the finals would be taking 75 or more lashes in a one day event. How's that for endurance?! You'd want to have up to 4 judges, one timekeeper, an maybe 2 counters (just to keep the lash count accurate). The timekeeper should record all the times. The reason is; if no one in the go round last for the full one minute round, then the the top times would advance to the next go round.
    This could be broken down into categories base on the instrument used, i.e. cat, quirt, prison strap, single tail, and bullwhip.
    Single tail and bullwhips could be further broken down by; braided, nonbraided, length, wieghted or nonwieghted.
    To keep things simple, I would have a competition once a month or every 2 months and use a differnt type of lash each time.
    When we get to the point of having a national finals, then we can run all the categories at the same time. LOL
    Food for thought.....

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  18. I've known guys that could split hide with every stroke. It take good control to do that.
    What I was refering to as "control" is:
    Are the lashes landing on the back in a consistent manner. Or are they landing more haphazardly, or are the lashes rapping around?

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  19. These are really great ideas, James!

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  20. Kind of excited just thinking about it. Perhaps the next poll should be:
    Would you enter a whipping competition, and if so, would inflict the lash or take the lash?
    Or both?

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  21. Great idea for a poll, James. I'll make a note of it for next time.

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  22. Spencer - "Split hide with every stroke", man, sorta nutted me up real quick like. A whipping Rodeo, where do I sign up and pay my entry fee? Freakin cool.

    I'd guess that if you can lay on 25 in a minute that the lashes might be haphazard like, huh? Maybe not, sorta depends on what type of whip and it's length.

    Except for the belt whipping I got as a kid, and the Idaho bullwhip thing, anytime a whip has crisscrossed my back, each lash was laid on hard, but sorta spaced out.

    Dude, this is a really cool idea.

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  23. Richie,
    I can hit a target very consistantly at 25 per minute. However, it was a pretty fast tempo. That means if hitting a live target, the poor guy being whipped wouldnt have much time to breath, if at all. So the score for the guy doing the whipping would take into consideration; tempo, and the ablity to read you prisoner.

    Another way to run the copetition would be to set a specific number of lashes for each go round, instead of timing the round. This would allow the whipper to let each lash "soak" in before appling the next lash.

    Richie, if you ever find yourself back in Idaho, I'd love to exchange blows with you.

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  24. Spencer - Yah, the more I thought about it, the more I realized you were talking about something else. But still, taking out targets at 25 strokes per minute, awesome.

    In rodeo, timing is like everything, well, mostly; the bronc or bull has a lot to do with it, but it shouldn't apply in a good whipping. You're like hell bent on nutting me up, aren't ya, Spence? "let each lash soak in", yah, dude that's the way it should be.

    Yup, would really like to make it back to Idaho someday. Even though there were parts of being a part-time cowboy I freakin' hated, overall, it was cool. But this week, I'm off to North Carolina for a landscaping seminar.

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    1. Soooo, have you two guys finally flogged each other out? Just curious, as always, lol!


      P.S.: Whippingdudes, boss, are you listening? Is there a way to clearly indicate on your home page: there's a new message in this, that and the other thread; that would make life here a lot easier! Just saying.

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  26. Richie, quote In rodeo, timing is like everything, well, mostly; the bronc or bull has a lot to do with it..."

    In a whipping contest, we ARE the bull or the bronc, man. Two or more men, flogged by James (got to be the same man laying the lash across skin) how about man who cries out (i.e. other than grunts or sharp ntake of breath) is disqualified. The guy who maintains bearing stays in.

    And yeah, let each lash sink in, feel the pain of every stroke. Open up my back with that keen lash and let the sweat drip in and sting each cut. Farking awesome.

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  27. James, if you're up for some target practice, let me know.

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  28. The competition would have to dovodir by category Aotes to use, example: cat, fourth, belt, whip thin.
    Applied a penalty of 5 strokes of each of the above items. The boy who first clemency request will be disqualified

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  29. Idaho Matt, I would like to take a whipping test with you ...

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  30. My brother Owen is just starting to plan for our 2. annual flogging event which, in fact, will once again be more of a friendly get-together, but could as well be categorized as a competition: In February of next year, we'll rent a small sailing ship for two days, at Marina del Rey (Los Angeles), to once again reenact the flogging on the Bounty (two dozen full-strength lashes per person, with the cat to the bare back, delivered by our Hawaiian buddy Kaloha who owns a fitness studio in Waikiki and who is the best, most qualified, most professional flogger you can wish for (and who, of course, will be given 24 good ones, as well). It will be a celebration of the Bounty movie, tons of fun, and a good opportunity to get a serious flogging for all who will participate (I hope that will include me: I got a pace maker implanted 3 weeks ago, so we'll see ...).
    Anyway, if you're interested, post a comment here with your contact info
    (I hope whippingdudes is o.k. with this); whippindudes, a special invitation goes out to you: see you in February! Lukas

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    1. I can't wait to hear how this trip goes....two of my favorite things: Hawaii and the LASH!!!! Keep us posted on how the NEW BOUNTY went, ok Lashmates???

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  31. Lukas, I've sent U a personal email about your event.

    "February of next year, we'll rent a small sailing ship for two days, at Marina del Rey (Los Angeles)."

    Paul

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  32. i am a forty year old dude with a great desire to receive forty lashes of the cat across my bare back, I am built like a dump truck and could take my whipping with dignity. "is there anyone out there that could oblige";

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  33. Anonymous - there might be a few folks who would be interested - or could suggest you to someone - but this is an international blog - with folks in UK, US, Germany, Spain and so on.

    Please can you tell us where you are or where you travel to?

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  34. HELLO MARK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPLY MATE, I LIVE IN NORTH LONDON AND I'M ACHING FOR THE LASH!.the name is Jon.

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  35. Calling all whipping dudes in london, essex and east herts',' I am looking for a flogger to administer forty lashes of the Cat o nine tails across my bare back'. I am well aware of how painfull its every lash will be but i'm as tough as they come and will take my whipping with dignity. Anyone man enough for the job?

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  36. Watcha Jon.

    Same country :) Looks also as though there are one or two other enthusiasts about too looking at the Recent Comments.

    Although not overly into "large club scenes" as such, there are a couple of clubs in London which although are more into caning guys on the arse, DO have a St. Andrews Cross - and guys who want to have their back attended too are made welcome.

    Might be better to have a more focussed gathering perhaps, but having been to one of the clubs (ClubCP) a few times in the past (when it was at Central Station), I have both found a few people who can wield a cat / belt / taswse across a guys back with some enthusiasm - and also found one or two other folks interested in 1:1 or small groups.

    Be interesting to keep an eye on this thread, see if we can get a few more folks interested.

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  37. Alright there mark', Yeah thanks for telling us about that mate, and yes hopefully someone or a small group will hopefully see my blogs and decide to include me'!. Anyway thank you again mark'! jon..

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  38. Plz include me in any event!! I'm 28 and i want to try a whipping on my shirtless back. I can fly anywhere as I can for free. Please email me back here and let's connect! Anyone else close in age who has done this?

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  39. Maxwell.fisher@hotmail.com

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    1. Alright there Max; I would be up for administering you a whipping mate',I have a "Cat O' nine tails which is aching to strike your bare back. speak to you soon. Jon..

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  40. Well Max, it looks like there are three of us so far.

    Jon, Yourself and Myself. Be good if we can find a few more though.

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    1. Alright there Mark,I have been busy for the last couple of months but everything is cool now and I am still eager to fulfill my urge to participate in "Shirtless Punishments". 'I have recently been practicing my talents to prepare for the occasion where i'l be requested to administer lashes across the recipients bare back and in turn would be well up for being on the receiving end of a good whipping as to satisfy my curiosity on how long I could hold out without screaming or passing out. speak to you soon mate. Jon..

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  41. I would love to take part in any whipping event! I can take a lot and always keep quiet.
    Wolf

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    1. Alright there mate,I would quite gladly administer you the "Cat O' nine tails" across your bare back. where are you actually situated?. Jon C.

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    2. You folks might want to stick an entry in this thread on the backup site: http://whippingdudes.iteratus.net/2011/12/358/

      It basically lets folks list their location and what they are up for - specifically for those that want to "do" rather than just "chat". Frustratingly no-one else on there yet in the UK but a few folks in the US now.

      If you are up for it please consider adding your names to the list - see if we can get something happening :)

      Mark

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    3. Hi John C.,
      I live in Toronto, Canada.
      Wolf

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  42. Hello, the best competitions, it if will fight as on swords, only whips, it will be very much a show. But it is necessary to think and of safety in this case, it is better to dress helmets, for head protection, and that that for protection of genitals. Thus, it will be interesting to look at such fight.
    To the winner and lost medical aid after fight, and in the award of money for a show. dimaboy87@rambler.ru

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  43. Chouette ! Un esclave qui est fustigé ! Dommage qu'on voit souvent des scènes ainsi belles ! Pourquoi ? Un esclave à punir est des choses plus belles et excitantes qu'on puisse voir !

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  44. Andrew posting here... (cultofone@usa.com)

    I think a competition would be interesting as follows:

    Two guys whipping each other, alternating between roles. A buy-in of a high-enough amount that it would really inspire some good stamina. Say $100? A simple pair of handcuffs could facilitate quick transitions. Start the ball rolling with each administering 20 lashes to each other, in order to let the other know what he's up against. Then adding 10 lashes each time to the sentence. Having them whip each other would undoubtedly add a level of severity to it, as they're in competition. When each man is receiving punishment from the other, he's able to call it quits at any time. First to quit not only forfeits his cash, but seeing as how he's already bound in place, he receives ten strokes from every man present at the competition as punishment for losing. He is then bound and left in a place reserved for the other losers, which are bound to receive 10% of the total number of inflicted lashes from every following competition. The winner is then allowed to go onto the next round or bow out and keep his cash as he desires.

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    1. Nice idea, but I'd change one detail. The *winner* should be the one who has to take all the extra lashes - the extra 10 lashes from each spectator and the extra 10%. When one man finally taps out, the winner has to not only take the same last set to prove he can take the whole set, but also has to take the extra lashes to prove he's really that much tougher than the loser. Otherwise it's a draw. That's the price of taking the cash and the glory for winning - you'll know you not only have to take everything the loser took but also take all the extra punishment. It also gives both men an incentive to stay in as long as possible, even when they're near their breaking point, knowing that they're adding to what the other man has to take.

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  45. where would someone go to receive lashes voluntarily

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  46. You can check the meet-and-beat thread on whippingdudes.iteratus.net and see if there's anyone near you. It's a long shot given that there are only 11 postings there, but worth a look. You can also try craigslist or one of the bdsm hookup sites (recon.com is one) to find someone local, although there's such a range of fetishes on those sites that it's hard to find guys into giving or taking whippings; it's a lot easier to find someone who wants to pee on you or dress you in women's panties (or both). Anyone have better ideas of where to look?

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  47. Hi, welcome to www.dimaboy.com

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